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2018-04-01T15:38:04

 

I think I´ll electronize an IW 17 application before FireMonkey gets stable.??

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:39:14

 

Yes, you will. :)

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:39:28

 

If I could use a real language instead of JS it would be done by now.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:40:13

 

But last 10 days alone is hunting one bug after another that if JS had type safety and wasn't so loose in other areas could never happen in a real language. And yes Im using TypeScript instead.. but it cant catch everything.. if I had to use plain JS.. Id be months behind where I am now.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:43:00

 

Its happening with every JavaScript framework on the Planet, Anders Hejlsberg should be nominated to the Peace Nobel,he´s saving lifes,marriages and so on.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:43:51

 

I agree. TS had to make a compromise though for interop, so it is amazing how much it can fix JS, but unless it dumps the interop for cross compilatino like ELM etc.. we have to live with JS still oozing around us.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:44:02

 

By now he has money to buy Delphi and have something to do during hes retiremnt.??

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:44:04

 

WASM will rescue us, but its still several years out from being ready.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:44:45

 

He's moved well beyond Delphi. :) I chatted with him a few times when I was at Microsoft and we were in meetings togehter etc.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:44:47

 

Rusty is pushing Wasm development,I think.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:45:23

 

one more damn bug and Im already ready to jump out the damn window... hopefully can get back to making code instead of fixing it soon :(

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:45:34

 

10 days of bug chasing in a crap language really is depressing.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:49:01

 

Maybe we can ignore the bugs, ship it and call it WebMonkey or FireWeb :)

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:49:41

 

Its driving me mad... tracing tracing tracing... all for a bug that should never exist in a real language....

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:49:58

 

fix one bug.. .they just keep coming.. but this one is unrelated to others.. .so soon...

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:51:25

 

think I just narrowed down to the section of code that is the problem....

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:52:17

 

Google.Microsoft.Mozila are all working in WASM,in this market sometimes 10 years becomes 3

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:52:17

 

I was one of the idiots who beleaved in Dart.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:52:17

 

I mean Rust

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:52:36

 

Anything taht pushes WASM is good. Rust from what ive seen - meh...

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:52:55

 

RUST certainly an imporovement.. but still not what we shoul dhave..

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:53:19

 

angular, react.. its all just mess after mess... its like Coding delphi but you have to use ASM a lot... they miss the whole point...

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:54:05

 

coming from C ior C++ though.. RUST is a great step.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:55:10

 

I tought Rust to be really ugly,Really liked Dart,but writing the UI in Angular is nosense,Polymer was a little bit better,but also anoying.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:55:38

 

IW17 is like VCL or WPF for the web - forget React and all those... this is what is should bne...

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:56:39

 

I gave up React 30 minutes after start reading it,really ugly code.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:58:45

 

For the kind of development I do Async and Await is not mandatory,Don´t know it Delphi has it,or if we can mimic it,but even in Languages that support it,people don´t agree in how it should be or not implemented.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:59:02

 

the async/await stuff in JS is a mess and needlessly so

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:59:07

 

they could have done so much better.

 


 

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2018-04-01T15:59:12

 

It change a lot drom Dart 1 to Dart 2